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gglwrx
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 15:14 |
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| I'm diabetic. I've got low energy. Breakfast needs to be something that does not involve a major production. So I give up. What do you eat when you've eliminated eggs, dairy, and fish? Juice and toast doesn't work -- we don't want juice with its concentrated sugar load. Fruit and yogurt doesn't work. Pancakes involve eggs and are high carb.
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MP not started: Hashimoto's '72, SLE/erythema multiforme '74, CSF/fibromyalgia '92, OSA '00, OA '04, DM-II '06: tenderness in areas of collagen concentration, chronic sinusitis and UTI, fatigue, mental fog, muscle weakness, incoordination: D25 19, D1,25=
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g-funk
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 16:45 |
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Sometimes I eat an egg white scramble with some sort of leafy green vegetable.
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Now in Phase III: Presumed Sarc+Babs with Hemochromatosis-Nov08: 125D/25Ds-Oct08(64/15),Dec08(46/6), Apr09(40/7), Jul09(?/7)
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gglwrx
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 17:29 |
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| I've never thought that an egg white omelet qualified as food. Anyone know if whey protein powder has vitamin D issues?
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MP not started: Hashimoto's '72, SLE/erythema multiforme '74, CSF/fibromyalgia '92, OSA '00, OA '04, DM-II '06: tenderness in areas of collagen concentration, chronic sinusitis and UTI, fatigue, mental fog, muscle weakness, incoordination: D25 19, D1,25=
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GillyB
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 23:10 |
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I like a small, whole wheat tortilla quesadilla with cheese and spices, sometimes with chicken pieces or guacamole&salsa. The whole wheat tortilla fairly low on the glycemic index. I get a plain local yogurt that I know does not have D added, and then I add frozen fruit like unsweetened blueberries or other fruit. I also like a small portion of scottish style oatmeal (fine cut, it cooks in the microwave) with yogurt, fruit.
In fact, ripe avocado mashed on toast made with a low glycemic bread sounds really good . . . I'm going to try that tomorrow.
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(MP 6/8/12, degenerative disc disease ‘95, osteoarthritis ’84, neuropathy, brain fog/memory, joint/muscle pain, benign thyroid tumors, skin issues. oral vit D3 discontinued 3/2012, 25D=20, 1,25D=56 4/20/12, NoIRs 4/30/12
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gglwrx
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 23:18 |
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| Where are you finding D-free dairy?
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MP not started: Hashimoto's '72, SLE/erythema multiforme '74, CSF/fibromyalgia '92, OSA '00, OA '04, DM-II '06: tenderness in areas of collagen concentration, chronic sinusitis and UTI, fatigue, mental fog, muscle weakness, incoordination: D25 19, D1,25=
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GillyB
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 23:26 |
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Hey gglwrx:
Here in Washington State, one of the locally owned supermarket chains carries milk from a particular dairy near the Canadian border (Clearbrook Dairy) that does not add Vit D to it's milk, half & half, and whipping cream. It's ridiculously expensive, in glass bottles no less, so I don't buy much of it, but it's nice to be able to make a milk-based soup occasionally.
Also, I noticed the other day that most whole milks don't have added Vit D! At least around here. This was true for the organic brands and the mainstream ones as well. So if you don't mind 4%, get the whole stuff. It will say vit D is added in the ingredients if it has been. This only seems to be true for liquid milk. I haven't be able to tell if products like cottage cheese, cream cheese, etc. have been made from milk with added D, unless I make the effort and call them.
I like a particular brand of yogurt, and it appeared that they didn't add D from the ingredients list. Just to be sure, I called them. They were very nice and confirmed that they did not use D-fortified milk for their yogurt.
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(MP 6/8/12, degenerative disc disease ‘95, osteoarthritis ’84, neuropathy, brain fog/memory, joint/muscle pain, benign thyroid tumors, skin issues. oral vit D3 discontinued 3/2012, 25D=20, 1,25D=56 4/20/12, NoIRs 4/30/12
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GillyB
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 23:27 |
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Also for breakfast, try soup! Not traditional, but still nice and hearty and filling!
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(MP 6/8/12, degenerative disc disease ‘95, osteoarthritis ’84, neuropathy, brain fog/memory, joint/muscle pain, benign thyroid tumors, skin issues. oral vit D3 discontinued 3/2012, 25D=20, 1,25D=56 4/20/12, NoIRs 4/30/12
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gglwrx
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Posted: Tue Jun 5th, 2012 23:31 |
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| I have a book about chronic fatigue that recommended magnesium glycinate and malic acid combination for brain fog. I swear by it. Going off it is like give up 20 points on my IQ. The brands matter and I have to run. I'll get back to you with brands and dosages.
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MP not started: Hashimoto's '72, SLE/erythema multiforme '74, CSF/fibromyalgia '92, OSA '00, OA '04, DM-II '06: tenderness in areas of collagen concentration, chronic sinusitis and UTI, fatigue, mental fog, muscle weakness, incoordination: D25 19, D1,25=
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GillyB
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 00:46 |
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I found these sites for replacing eggs in cooking. Obviously, you are going to want to avoid the tofu, soy flour and the flax seed due to D or pre-D content, and sugar may be a problem, but there are some other good ideas here, even pancakes without eggs.
http://www.wikihow.com/Replace-Eggs-in-Your-Cooking
http://www.emaxhealth.com/15/23970.html
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(MP 6/8/12, degenerative disc disease ‘95, osteoarthritis ’84, neuropathy, brain fog/memory, joint/muscle pain, benign thyroid tumors, skin issues. oral vit D3 discontinued 3/2012, 25D=20, 1,25D=56 4/20/12, NoIRs 4/30/12
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gglwrx
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 00:58 |
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| I've been on special diets before and cooked for friends with special diets, usually gluten free, so I've got special cookbooks. I'll figure something out. Meantime, for brain fog I find Magnesium glycinate (KAL brand) 400 mg and 2 malic acid 800 mg capsules (Nature's Life)daily has certainly has helped me.
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MP not started: Hashimoto's '72, SLE/erythema multiforme '74, CSF/fibromyalgia '92, OSA '00, OA '04, DM-II '06: tenderness in areas of collagen concentration, chronic sinusitis and UTI, fatigue, mental fog, muscle weakness, incoordination: D25 19, D1,25=
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 13:13 |
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| Rye toast with almond butter for me.
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gglwrx
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 17:05 |
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| Rye toast with almond butter sounds doable. Quick, enough fat to keep me happy and if I had a big mug of tea with honey I'd be a happy camper. I also remembered grits which I like without milk, just butter and honey. Not giving up butter unless I have to. None of the margins taste good to me.
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MP not started: Hashimoto's '72, SLE/erythema multiforme '74, CSF/fibromyalgia '92, OSA '00, OA '04, DM-II '06: tenderness in areas of collagen concentration, chronic sinusitis and UTI, fatigue, mental fog, muscle weakness, incoordination: D25 19, D1,25=
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GillyB
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Posted: Wed Jun 6th, 2012 17:52 |
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I love peanut butter, almond, cashew, pistachio butters, just in a spoon as a snack. Unsweetened of course. Whole wheat pita bread might work out well too.
As for your suggestion about supplements helping brain fog, it sounds interesting but I'm working so hard on eliminating supplements in prep for starting the MP I probably won't try it, unless I forget my own name. Of course, if I do forget my name, I can just look at my driver's license. If I can find it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 05:43 |
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Meat. And it sounds like you need to find some good health food stores in your area. There must be a ton of them in Denver. I find that cooking a steak every morning is very easy to do. I get some smoked turkey parts from my health food store. Why are you avoiding Dairy? Cheese is a great food, but it is best to find some imported cheese so you don't have to worry about vitamin D. Egg white omelets with cheese is great for breakfast. Any dairy ingredient in foods is suspect, as the manufacturer does not have to list the D contained in ingredients. So, I get milk from my heath food store without D, and I buy Organic Valley cottage cheese that I have checked with the manufacturer, and they say if D is not on their labels, I can be assured it does not have D. My 25D fell several points when I switched from another brand of cottage cheese to the Organic Valley brand. Some of their milk is D free, but you must check the label, because they do add D to some of their milk. Cynthia
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Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 07:24 |
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uh-oh
http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum48/14855.html
I have just discovered that Organic Valley no longer produces any regular whole milk unadulterated with "Vitamin" D.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15th, 2012 08:23 |
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| I just bought a 1/2 gallon of Organic Valley 'Grass Milk', with no viamin D. But not sure the health food store is going to continue to stock this milk, as the item was on sale. Cynthia
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Posted: Tue Jun 19th, 2012 13:19 |
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Switching to a diet composed primarily of fruits and vegetables has shown significant results in reducing inflamation and a reduction in other symptoms of autoimmune disease. I just recently began consuming primarily fruits and vegetables with small amounts of seeds and nuts. High caloric density foods are the cause of obesity. High caloric foods and processed foods are the cause of obesity and most of the common diseases today.
Eliminating all animal products can result in dramatic improvements in over all health. In just over a month I have lost almost 15 pounds and feel more energetic. I have better mental clarity and feel less joint pain. I am still taking metformin for diabetes and Losartan for HBP, but I hope to be drug free within the next few months.
I have been suffering with severe plaque psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis for 25 years. I have been on Remicade and Enbrel and I have taken methotrexate for around 10 years. I am currently taking Humira and methotrexate and have seen dramatic clearing of my skin and significant pain reduction, but I know it's not a cure, it's treating the symptoms. I am about to start taking probiotics to see if it can help by promoting healthy bacteria in the gut.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19th, 2012 20:42 |
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Ronnie, the purpose of the CureMyTh1 site and its forums is to help people who are interested in starting the MP (Marshall Protocol). It is not open to just general health discussions. If you would like to find out about the Marshall Protocol, you may read extensively here, http://mpkb.org/ . Methotrexate and Losartan are contraindicated on the MP. The key medication on the MP is olmesartan, taken at much higher doses than for HBP. All of your many experiments, done and planned are not curative, the MP, given enough time, is.
Cynthia
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Posted: Wed Jun 20th, 2012 00:13 |
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I'm here because I'm interested in the Marshall Protocol and have submitted to admin a request to find a physician who I can work with.
I was trying to share some valuable dietary information. Dairy and meat have been proven to be detrimental to health. Eating of RAW fruits and vegetable has been unequivocally proven to be beneficial to promoting general health AND reducing the body's autoimmune response.
I mentioned what I have been doing, not what I wish to be doing to treat the conditions that I have. I thought that was very clear. It is my desire to stop taking Metformin, Losartan, methotrexate and Humira to treat my severe psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis.
Frankly, your "welcome" is not very welcoming and unfortunately makes me feel rather uncomfortable to share my personal information and what I consider valuable research that I have done that could potentially benefit others.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20th, 2012 06:30 |
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Ronnie, it was not at all clear from your post that you even knew this was a site about the Marshall Protocol, and I always check very carefully not to be so hard nosed if I think there is an indication that the posting person is really where they should be. We get people all the time who actually are on the wrong forum.
So, I apologize, and would like to welcome you to our forums. We have many members who pitch in to help answer questions on these forums, but I have to give you a few pointers on doing such. Even the moderators will qualify the statements they make about health in general. When you say "Dairy and meat have been proven to be detrimental to health", at least half or more of the members here would take exception to this, and I am one.
But that is not the issue. You say this as if you are both an expert on the subject, and are absolutely correct in what you say. That is the tone we want to discourage in those that are helping out. None of us are experts, not the moderators, and not you, no matter how certain you think you are. So we ask that you do not phrase your advice as tho you are an expert. There are many weasel words that can be used to qualify your statements. Such phrases as, "In my opinion", "From my experience/reading", "Many believe, and I agree", and the list goes on, so please do not be so forward in your statements, because as you learn more and more about the science of the MP, and related science, you will certainly find areas where your past learning was just plain wrong.
Now I hope you don't take this as being rude, as we really do want you to participate in the exchanges that take place on these forums. So carry on reading and participating where you think you can be of help, Cynthia
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