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Posted: Sun Jan 10th, 2010 06:32 |
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Hi treefrog. 
I think I have read that some others noticed a change when switching from one kind of olmesartan to another. An increase in symptoms would indicate an increase in IP/herx, so maybe the generic was not as effective?
You probably should review the managing immunopathology article in the MP knowledge base. (Search for it at http://mpkb.org ).
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Posted: Sun Jan 10th, 2010 19:31 |
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Hi Joyful,
Thankyou for the link. I understand that the swap to olmesartan may be giving me more IP which may be why i feel an increase in symptoms, however, could it conversely be the case that olmesartan is a weaker antiinflammatory than the olmecip?
Thankyou for replying!
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Posted: Mon Jan 11th, 2010 05:53 |
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_treefrog wrote_
...could it conversely be the case that olmesartan is a weaker antiinflammatory than the olmecip?
I doubt it.
Dr. Marshall is working on some related questions right now, so keep an eye out for posts in the next 4-8 months on formulations. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2010 18:11 |
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Hi everyone,
Since my last post i have stabilised on the olmesartan - took a while (about 3 weeks) of going on 4 hourly but im now back to 6 hourly. Think i was fatigue and neuro herxing quite a lot due to the swap in benicar and panicked!
I'm now on 100mg mino, 125mg zith, 40mg benicar 6 hourly, clind 1/4+1/8+1/32 (sorry about the conveluted clind doses but im increasing in very small doses!)
Right now main herxes when i increase doses seem to be;
- neurologically, depression, low focus/concentration, intensely feeling, hopeless, pointless, very insecure, alone, socially withdrawn (although i dont have anyone else to socialise with really except my family but its a general feeling), cry a lot, frustrating, anger, rage, get overwhelmed really quickly and easily.
- fatigue - although GREATLY REDUCED comes back when just increased doses. Usually linked to thumping in the head though. Generally not fatigued anymore when im not having any problems with my head.
- bowel - MASSIVELY improved, although still bloating when increase abx. But soooo much better!
- Hard abdomen - still have a hard part of abdomen predominantly in the center and on right side of abdomen. Assuming just bowel inflammation - comes and goes with IP.
Aim; Hoping to be on 1/2 clind by sometime in March.
Hope everyone is progressing well!!
Take care,
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Posted: Fri Feb 5th, 2010 23:17 |
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Hi Treefrog. 
It's good to read of your improvements.
Have you tried cooking from your new cookbook (Christmas gift)?
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Posted: Sun Feb 7th, 2010 12:33 |
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Hi Joyful,
Yeah i've been cooking from it almost non-stop really! I've explored most of the recipes (some we can't have as they include fish) so i've started inventing a bit. Some going horribly wrong but some are really good! Most of them use ground almonds or coconut flour. Made a lovely pizza as a treat last week and a foccia in early jan mmm.... have been experimenting a bit too. But doing it all without sugar and simple carbs. Trouble is... i keep experimenting and finding really good combinations and recipes and i keep forgetting to write them down!
Hope you're progressing well?
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Posted: Mon Feb 8th, 2010 04:24 |
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Sounds good!
I've been making an apple crisp with an almond crust and it is delicious. 
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Posted: Sat Feb 27th, 2010 22:24 |
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Hi All,
I've got a bit of a stressful week coming up so thought i'd write an update so far.
I'm on the same med levels with clind at 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 (am nearly on half a clind tablet)
Main herxes;
- NEURO. Awful brain fog. massively stressed. big headaches. fatigued but al eminating from the head if that makes sense? depression. bad thoughts. apathy. lack of motivation for anything. moments of suicidal thoughts but not as frequent as when i moved up last time (small improvement). total inability to work, concentrate, focus on anything, retain ANY information. Someone will sya something and i'l just blank out after the first word and have to ask them to repeat it a couple of times before i can even begin to assetain what they're asking me/ telling me.
- fatigue still MUCH improved overall but comes back in bits when im herxing badly - especially have neuro related fatigue. i don't know if anyone understand what i mean when i say fatigue emminating from my head but i dont really know ho to explain it any other way.
- bowel - has been a bit dodgey recently and bloating comes back when i herx as usual
- appetite is really annoying me - desire for food is through the roof. i dont seem to be able to stop myself from over-eating at the moment, even when im not remotely hungry. This really distresses me. I haven't had a food related panic attack in a long while (yey) but have felt close at points since increasing abx. Focusing on body image a fair amount at the moment too.
- eyes dry and stingingnd end
- woke up in the middle of the night a few nights ago with a burning throat spreading to my sinuses - hoping that's the tonsillitis being dealt with!
- Also had a runny nose for the past few days now and painful ears. The type that are painful, sore and really itchy but you know you just can't get rid of it! annoying huh!
- painful bladder and bowel in general (and at times, liver)
At the moment i have a series of exams and practicals that i have to complete at school for my bio Alevel. I had my first one last wednesday. Went into school no problems wasnt feeling too bad but when it came to starting it i started feeling really stressed. And ended up having a panic attack in the middle of it. I left the lab before it got too bad in front of everyone. But in the hallway i just wanted to leave and quit everything. I couldnt remember simple facts or even follow simple instructions. That was a horrible day.
Since then i've been really worried about this week coming as iv got another 5 sessions until next monday pm. And i just cant retain any information. Iv been trying to revise all day and i STILL can't remember ANYTHING. I'll read the paragraph or even scentence and by the time iv reached the end, iv forgotten the beginning of it! I really just want to quit it so i can stop stressing and feeling so rubbish but i feel really bad quitting it. Iv been ill throughout all of my exams so far and i dont want to flake out of something else. I just feel really useless. I dont know if i can emotionally hold out till next monday and i dont know how many more hits my selfesteem can take if i keep getting things wrong and failing everything. I;ve tried asking teachers for help - multiple times but they dont understand why i need more help and explaining. They just wont help. I feel really trapped. Im already at school a year after i should be and i just feel out of place, with no friends there, noone understanding me or my situation and all of them thinking im just really thick. And the really sad thing is im trying SO hard to understand and learn the material and am so frustrated its just not going in!! I spend most nights crying over it and just wishing i could curl up into a ball and disappear. But i need qualifications. Otherwise life seems even more hopeless, i cant see a way forward without getting them. PLus i think people around me will look down on me for not going the "proper way". Im sure this part is just my paranoia but i cant help but feel it.
Sorry for the ridiculously long rant, next time i say quick update i will try to stick to my words!!
Take care everyone,
Treefrog
p.s. Joyful - am still enjoying the baking - apple crisp sounds great - i made a similar thing a while ago with nectarines instead, also good - also made a vanilla+strawberry cake for my birthday last tuesday and have made an apple tart for my birthday meal tomorrow! Helps take my mind of things and destress, even if just for a little while. Although should probably cut back soon with my eating as it is.
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Posted: Sun Feb 28th, 2010 00:31 |
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just do the best you can, ok
some of the best thinkers in history were regarded as stupid by their fellow students :-(
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Posted: Sun Feb 28th, 2010 04:20 |
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Hi treefrog,
Sorry to read about all the stress youre feeling with school. Have you considered cutting back on or dropping clindy?? It may help you get through your exams. I know when I was on clindy I had a difficult time thinking and especially reading. I also had difficulty when getting to the end of the sentence and forgetting what the beginning was about. Now (with no clindy) I am able to read books and actually follow the story line.
Hope this coming week goes smoothly whatever you decide to do.
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