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Tony
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 13:13 |
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HELP !!!! 
Too much info for my brain. I dont seem to be able to study and apply the things that you say.
Its better for me if you got something like a video.
By the way I "think" (because no body say for sure) I have CFS.
Severe fatigue and brain fog....
Well I am trying to give MP a try as well. How and where do I start. Don't think any doctors are available in my country.
How can I take the tests and also some medication (that MP mentions) from a distance?
Thank you so much.
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arhayw
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 19:12 |
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Tony,
Have you tried watching the Overview of the Marshall Protocol video at the Bacteriality site? The whole website is a great resource and may be more understandable for you.
Renee
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JRFoutin
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Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 23:26 |
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Tony,
Please see the video that Renee suggested. It is a "must see" for those considering the MP. Pictures and simple explanations help describe details that are important to know.
The MP has to do with more than just political boundaries, although you will want to discuss legal issues for your country. You may want to discuss what legal issues may apply to your country with your doctor, as he/she may have more understanding of where to look and ask questions for your situation.
Probably the most important prescription detail to understand:
Benicar-Basic Information Also read:
D-metabolites tests
Which diagnostic tests do I need?
What is a therapeutic probe? I hope you also have a copy of the Marshall Protocol Phase 1 Guidelines to read and discuss with your doctor (make a copy for your doctor).
Your doctor is responsible for your health, and being prepared to discuss issues professionally with your doctor is up to you. Your doctor can also be encouraged to join the Private Section for Health Professionals.
See also:
Papers and Presentations for Physicians
Best to you Tony--Janet
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Tony
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 06:49 |
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Thank you Renee. Its very kind of you. I tried to watch it but its impossible to see all of it. I just dont have the energy even to watch it and understant it :-(
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Tony
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 08:17 |
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Dear Janet, thank you so much for all the info. I told this to Renee also. I am not even able to watch and understant the MP video much less read all that info on the links that you told me. I know that I have to in order to continue with the therapy but its just too much for my physical energy and way too much for my brain :-(
I tried to read as much as I could....but I find my self all the time skipping lines just to go to the end....and the conclusion is to remember very little by the end of the text.
Anyway ..... I think I am in deeb trouble because a) I can not do this by myself b) there is not doctor close to where I live that know about MP and c) they dont sell Benicar just to try out and see if it might help. :-(
I've read about phase one and therapeutic probe....but I just can not do this by myself. It looks like a huge mountain and I seem to be having difficulties standing up, much less go up the mountain.
I will try ask around if the blood tests centers can perform the 25-D, and 1,25-D, blood tests and we will take it from there.
Just have some questions...in case they dont, could I do the blood tests remotely?
Also is there anyone (expert)I could have a close talk on my situtation and things that I have to do (I mean if possible to have his instant message account)?
I feel so heavy and tired and confused.....
Well thank you so much.
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JRFoutin
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Posted: Mon Jul 21st, 2008 16:25 |
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Tony,
Thank you for your question. I have been travelling recently and was not at the computer, so please pardon the time to respond to your note.
You are correct that these things are challenges:
- Brain Fog, confusion, or symptoms that prevents too much "thinking" time on task.
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- Hot and sunny country, and problems covering or staying indoors.
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- Lacking physical energy, heavy and tired.
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- Doctor needed that knows the MP.
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Suggestions to help "work through" the challenges:
- Take your time to learn. If you are the first in your country, you better know the Marshall Protocol and Marshall Pathogenesis better than anyone else before you start. If you have family and friends, they may help you. Find your best learning process and use that to help you understand. You might think of more, but here are some different ways to boost learning, including:
- Try having someone else read it to you and talk to you about it
- Rewrite important details, or make notes
- draw diagrams
- underline
- print important details out, instead of trying to read online
- Only study for 15 minutes at a time, then give yourself a break for 10, then read again.
- Find out what time of day you are at your best, then study then
- Use a combination of learning helps
- Repeat and re-read to build layers of learning perspectives
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- If people in Florida, California and sun-belt HOT USA between those two points can figure out how to stay inside and dress to cover in hot sunny climates, you can too. Seems like there are folks in a sunny climate area in Australia with similar problem set. So, where you are at is not really the problem, it is what you do with where you are at. Simply ask yourself what you would do to rid yourself of the plague that is killing you slowly and miserably, and then do what it takes.
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- When I was most ill, I slept up to 20 hours a day. I barely could do much at all. I understand how Th1 zaps energy and makes you work twice as hard for every waking minute. I can't promise you the first part of the MP is going to be any easier, but I can tell you honestly that energy does come back, slowly but surely. Sleep when you need to, and avoid over-doing anything. Take it easy.
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- You are correct. The MP requires a doctor to oversee your health and to prescribe medications. None of the first on the MP had a doctor that knew about the MP, and my doctor didn't know about it before me. No big deal, just work with it.
Find a doctor you can work with that will do the MP as you request it, and who will join the Private Section for Health Professionals . This is your best hope for helping your doctor help you come to a determination on any issue related to the MP and your health.
You must be prepared to treat each visit professionally and courteously, with carefully kept records and information sets appropriate for the visit so you and your doctor can get to a good decision in the shortest period of time.
The study site is closed to new members, but you can still submit an application for membership. It is a long process to get well, and volunteer nurses know it takes years for someone to do the MP.
You might ask yourself:
- Do I have the right stuff to work challenges and stick with something that is not easy and takes a long time?
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- Will my family support my choice to do the MP over a long period of time?
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- Can I do the work to find a doctor and work with that doctor?
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- Can I get Benicar in my country?
I think you have shown a lot of pluck to post and write about your situation already, so good for you! Continue to ask general information questions right here on your own questions thread and advocates will answer them as best as they can.
Please use the links I gave you in the post above to review and study, then try watching Amy's video again. Sometimes watching and reading takes 2 or three times to get it when brain fog is thick, so ask family and friends to help you understand if needed.
The Marshall Protocol -- simple explanations
Best to you Tony--Janet
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 11:39 |
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Hello Janet,
First let me say a BIG THANK YOU for all that effort to write to me all those nice things. Now saying that, I have to say that I am having difficulty keep up with all the things that you say. And unfortunately I have to kindly request that you dont write so many things. I know it sounds strange but .....I just CAN NOT handle all those information.
Dont have the energy anymore even to read....much less comprehent and apply those things.
I would like though....because I know since you've been through the same situation to tell you my feelings about what you said.
Point 1) Take time to learn: To tell you the truth.....I am so tired that I cannot / dont want to learn. All I know is that I am a living-dead person. Life is way too much for me, without having to learn anything. I dont want to do anything, dont want to talk. move or even think..... I hope you understand what I say. So the suggestions that you make to me....(they are very good, no doubt) but not for me.
2) Regarding the SUN I'll do my best. I like the sea so much that I am going at nights now :-) Very rarely I must say.
3) Ohhh beleive me, I am taking it VERY EASY !!!! And I sleep or watch TV more hours than you can ever beleive :-) Been doing that for many years. It does help when there are moments that you need that extra energy.
4) I think its not a doctor that I must find because they are all so busy and biased toward the money that its difficult to find someone. Probably a humanitarian :-)
Now tha answer to your questions are all NO !!! Unfortunately.
So I would like to ask you a few questions (please try for a yes or no answers)
a) Since I can not buy the benicar in my country, can I buy it from abroad and have it deliver to me? If yes from where?
b) Is there any person(doctor if possible) who can be responsible for my case through interet? (ie. he can advise me, and I can send him all the tests and information that he/she need)?
c) Is there a quick way to find out if this therapy is for my situation? (ie. If I take benicar will I see any improvement?)
d) Are there any ways to kill these bacteria other than taking benicar and doing all those things that the doctor said? Well I know the answer is NO :-) but I was wondering ....that there must be other ways also....like raising the body temperature for long time, or even heating iron particles in the blood with sonic waves or probably haveing a blood transplant and cleanse.
Again thank you so much and I am sorry that I bother you all the time.
Tony
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 17:43 |
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Tony,
Sorry to give you a full post. For all your questions:
If there was a quicker, easier way to get well, everyone would already be doing it  . Unfortunately, this is the real deal, and it requires your complete attention and involvement, as well as a medical professional to monitor your health.
The quickest way to find a doctor and discover if the MP is applicable in your situation is to request your current doctor to get accurate D-metabolites tests. Talk to him/her about how to get prescriptions for medications in your country, too. You can post D test results on this site here:
Help with Understanding D-metabolite tests
Moderators will help you understand the values returned from lab tests in this forum For your safety and success, and for those that read our posts, this site will only recommend the Marshall Protocol.
Inclusion criteria for participation in ARF phase II clinical study of the Marshall Protocol
Safety warning
When you are ready to do what it takes to study and work to actually get well, then remember this is the place for the real business of learning about what it takes to get well  , especially if you are the first in your country and must find and work professionally with the first doctor in your region.
Your family might thank you later if you ask them to help you read and discuss details now when it is difficult for you.
Choose well, get well Tony--Janet
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